GraphicRiver

stabbing in the dark

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metapete says

It’s kinda frustrating to get any idea of what will get approved on this site. Basically you are at the mercy of the reviewer and their personal taste. I was told something was “very low quality” and that I should look at the gallery more. But I see plenty of things that IMO are not very good either. Not to mention that the reviewer does not provide much feedback at all. I’m pretty much left stabbing in the dark on this site. I get the impression that envato is REALLY picky.

What sort of an approval rate are the rest of you experiencing? And how long did it take for the rest of you to get your first item approved?

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tmthymllr says

Just keep improving your skills. ;)

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metapete says

I don’t think it’s just about skill level, but personal style & taste on the part of both the artist and reviewer. I suppose it’s just going to take time to get a feel for what fit’s in on this site.

I also feel that calling something “very low quality” is kinda rude. The reviewer could have just said that it isn’t what they are looking for, and left it at that.

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adrijusg says

Sometimes it’s better to get criticism then just be told nothing. Actually, it’s always better to get it, even tho it stings! If one has balls, he can accept the criticism and improve..

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metapete says

But criticism with out any real feedback is just an insult. The reviewer needs to work on his critique skills.

Fine someone thinks it’s low quality, I can deal with that, how about saying exactly what about it is low quality. How can someone improve if they are left in the dark with a blunt, “not good enough” response, and nothing else.

What the reviewer gave was essentially telling me nothing, that’s what is so frustrating.

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chrisatlemon says

Hi tmthymllr,

I can understand the frustration. With my first rejection I was horrified! I simply could not believe it! Then I sought help on the “items discussion” forum and realised that my item was not as great as I had thought. I put a lot of work into it resubmitted, and it got accepted.

It’s only happened to me once that I gave up on an item, all my other attempts got accepted either straightaway, or after some additional work. One item even got accepted after it was initially rejected, I contacted support and asked to reconsider, and then the same reviewer accepted my file without changes.

So I don’t think it’s simply arbitrary, and the reviewers do know what they are doing. However I agree that sometimes it may be frustrating, or you feel your item was not considered fairly.

One thing you could do firstly is to post a screenshot/sample of you rejected item here or even better in the “items discussion” forum.

You can also get more detailed feedback from the reviewer if you ask for it through support. I’ve done that a couple of times in both times I was successful in improving my item and having it accepted.

And yes, Envato is really picky. That’s a good thing. Only premium, top-quality files will get accepted. If you saw files which you thought do not meet this criteria they were probably older files.

It is also good to know that some categories are notoriously hard to get files accepted for. These include flyers, especially when you submit clean and simple designs, web buttons and UI templates as well as clean and simple business cards.

There are two reasons for this: I think that some files (like for example clean or simple flyer designs) are simply not sought after by Envato. Other Categories like web buttons or UIs already have a huge amount of absolutely supreme dream work which you need to at least match at your item accepted.

hope this helps

Chris

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adrijusg says

I see your point. We can’t help sadly without seeing your work…my reviewer told me what was wrong with the textures I uploaded. They needed sharpening. As soon as I did that it was approved lightning fast..

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metapete says

I’m actually not surprised my first submission got rejected. Heck, it was my first submission.

And I did try to get more info through support, all I got was a repeat of the same thing from the reviewer. I guess that one reviewer just isn’t very good at providing feedback.

Actually, what I submitted was a background that is a larger version of what you see in my avatar (minus the text). It’s a 3D fractal, which I thought is ok, I saw some plain 2D fractals in the gallery. So, I thought a 3D one might be interesting. But I guess my presentation was all wrong.

I’ll go post in the items discussion for some feedback.

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wok says

I totally understand, but you will begin to see great improvements in your work. I look back now at some of my earlier attempts and can now clearly see why the weren’t accepted. A lot of the time the feedback from the reviews is a little vague and not very helpful but occasionally they give some useful advice. Also, five years ago i’m sure it would have been a lot easier to to get files accepted and the quality wasn’t quite as high, but now with the amount of files they already here and the amount of quality designers around they can afford to be as picky as they like.

I have one file sitting on my computer, which has be soft rejected four times! And i honestly think this is much better than all of my other files which are selling pretty good. I have been tempted to give it away because i think others will like it and find it useful, but i know the amount of time i have spent on it and i know it will sell well if i can get it accepted! Keep trying!

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TanyDi says

Don’t give up !!! I’ve got the same hard beginning here :-)

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